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Acne Marks · PIE · PIH · Asian Skin · Guide

PIE vs PIH: Red vs Brown Acne Marks

Vessels or pigment. The glass test tells you which.

Red and brown marks after acne are not scars, and they are not the same thing. Medical Director Dr Sin Yong explains how to tell them apart and what helps each.

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Red
PIE: vessels
Brown
PIH: pigment
Glass test
Tells them apart
Not scars
Surface level
Assessed and planned by Dr Sin Yong, Medical Director · MBBS (NUS) · MRCS (Edinburgh) · MSc Aesthetic Medicine (London) · MSc Practical Dermatology (Cardiff) · Designated DEKA Centre of Excellence
In short

PIE and PIH are flat marks left after acne, not scars. PIE is red or pink, from widened small blood vessels, and fades when pressed under a clear glass. PIH is brown, from extra pigment, and does not fade under pressure; it is more common and longer-lasting in Asian skin. Both improve with acne control and daily sunscreen; persistent marks need different lasers.

Reviewed by Dr Sin Yong, Medical Director, IN Eternity Clinic · Updated
Key facts
  • PIE: post-inflammatory erythema: red, pink or purple marks from widened small vessels.
  • PIH: post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation: brown marks from extra melanin.
  • The test: press a clear glass on the mark; PIE fades, PIH stays.
  • Scars?: no. Marks are flat; scars change the contour of the skin.
  • Asian skin: PIH is more frequent and lasts longer in medium and darker skin.
  • First steps: acne control, no picking, daily sunscreen that also covers visible light.
  • At IN Eternity Clinic: 675 nm laser for persistent red marks; pico laser, laser toning or peels for persistent brown marks.
  • Consultation: S$120, waived with any medical treatment.
The quick test

PIE vs PIH: the 10-second test at home

After a spot heals, it often leaves a flat mark. Two very different things cause most of them. Post-inflammatory erythema (PIE) is a red, pink or purplish mark made by small blood vessels that widened during the inflammation and have not yet settled. Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH) is a brown or grey-brown mark made by extra melanin that pigment cells produced in response to the same inflammation.

A simple check separates them. Press a clear glass or the flat side of a clear plastic ruler firmly on the mark and look through it. If the colour fades while pressed, the mark is vascular, so it is PIE. If the colour stays, it is pigment, so it is PIH. Many people have both, sometimes in the same mark: a red centre with a brown rim, or red marks that turn brown as they fade.

Neither changes the contour of the skin. Run a finger over a mark, or look at it in side light: if the surface is level, it is a mark, not a scar. Dips and pits are scars, which are covered on acne scar treatment in Singapore.

Stylised skin cross-section illustration comparing a red acne mark, with widened small blood vessels near the surface, and a brown acne mark, with extra pigment in the lower epidermis
Illustration of PIE (vessels) and PIH (pigment) in cross-section. Original illustration for IN Eternity Clinic.
Side by side

Red vs brown acne marks: PIE and PIH compared

A general guide. Marks are checked at assessment, because the two often coexist.
PIE (red marks)PIH (brown marks)
What causes the colourWidened small blood vessels and lingering inflammationExtra melanin in the epidermis, the dermis or both
ColourPink, red or purpleLight to dark brown, sometimes grey-brown
Glass (blanch) testFades when pressedStays when pressed
Who gets it mostSeen in every skin type; most visible in lighter skinMore frequent and longer-lasting in medium and darker skin, including most Asian skin
How long it lasts untreatedOften months; can persist longerMonths for surface pigment; a year or more for deeper pigment
Made worse byHeat, picking, irritating skincare, sunSun and visible light, picking, irritation, harsh or heat-heavy treatments
What usually helpsTime, acne control, sun protection, barrier care; vascular-acting laser if it persistsDaily sunscreen, acne control, prescription or pigment-safe skincare, then pico laser, laser toning or peels if it persists
At IN Eternity Clinic少女光 675 nm laser for persistent rednessPico laser, laser toning and chemical peels
PIE

What is PIE, and how is it treated?

PIE is the redness of inflammation that has outstayed the spot. The small vessels in the upper dermis widened while the spot was active, and in some people they stay that way for months. It is most noticeable on fair skin, where redness shows readily, but it is common in Singapore too, especially after many inflamed spots in the same area.

Most PIE fades by itself once new spots stop forming. The process is helped by controlling acne, not picking, gentle barrier-friendly skincare and daily sunscreen, since sun keeps the vessels dilated. Where red marks persist, treatment aims at the vessels. At IN Eternity Clinic that is the 675 nm laser, delivered fractionally under contact cooling, which acts on the vascular component of the dermis. Elsewhere, pulsed dye laser and intense pulsed light are widely used for red marks; they are described here for comparison and are not the methods used at this clinic. Some topical treatments have also been studied for PIE and PIH together; whether any suits you is decided after assessment.

Resurfacing lasers are not a first choice for PIE. They add heat and inflammation to skin that is already red, and in Asian skin they can leave brown marks behind the red ones.

“Press a clear glass on the mark. If the colour fades, you are looking at blood vessels; if it stays, you are looking at pigment. The treatment follows that, not the word “scar”.”
— Dr Sin Yong, Medical Director, IN Eternity Clinic
PIH

What is PIH, and why does it last so long in Asian skin?

PIH is the pigment response to inflammation. Inflammatory signals from the healing spot stimulate melanocytes, which make more melanin and pass it into the surrounding skin. When the extra pigment sits in the epidermis, the mark is mid-brown with a sharper edge and usually fades over months. When some of it drops into the dermis, the mark is greyer and more diffuse, and it can last a year or more, because there is no quick route out.

Studies of acne in Asian patients have found acne-related PIH in a large share of people, often lasting longer than the acne itself and sometimes bothering them more than the spots did. Even experts find it hard to grade consistently, which is why marks are photographed in the same light and judged over months rather than from week to week.

Treatment follows the cause first. While spots are still appearing, new PIH keeps forming, so acne control comes before pigment work. Then daily sunscreen that also blocks visible light, prescription or pigment-safe skincare where suitable, and, for marks that persist, gentle low-heat procedures such as pico laser, laser toning or superficial peels. In skin prone to PIH, an aggressive treatment can create the very problem it set out to fix. The clinical approach to PIH is set out on acne marks removal in Singapore.

Prevention

How to stop acne marks forming

A Chinese Singaporean woman in her twenties applying sunscreen at a bright bathroom mirror, her whole head and reflection in frame
Illustrative image. Not a patient of IN Eternity Clinic.
Marks or scars

Marks vs scars: why the difference saves time and money

A common reason people spend money on acne scar treatment without improvement is that they had marks, not scars, or both treated as one problem. Resurfacing lasers aimed at scars do little for PIE and can worsen PIH in darker skin; pigment lasers aimed at marks do nothing for a pitted scar.

Most faces with old acne have more than one of these.
If you seeIt is probablyLook at
Flat red or pink spots that fade under a glassPIE675 nm laser, time and sun care
Flat brown spots that stay under a glassPIHAcne marks removal
Dips or pits that cast shadows in side lightAtrophic scarsAcne scar treatment
Firm raised bumps on the jaw, chest or shouldersHypertrophic or keloid scarsKeloid treatment

The types of scars are explained on types of acne scars.

At assessment

What Dr Sin Yong looks for

  • The glass test. Which marks blanch (vascular) and which do not (pigment).
  • Surface contour. Side light separates flat marks from shallow scars.
  • Active acne. New spots mean the cause is treated before the marks.
  • Depth of pigment. Sharp mid-brown marks suggest surface pigment; grey, diffuse ones suggest deeper pigment that fades more slowly.
  • Pigment history. How your skin darkened after earlier spots, sun or procedures guides how gentle treatment must be.
  • Other pigment. Melasma, sun spots or freckles mixed in with acne marks change the plan.

General clinical observations used at consultation; they describe what is checked, not any individual result.

When this is not cosmetic

When a dark or red mark is not from acne

Most flat marks after acne are PIE or PIH. A few need a different diagnosis.

Where any of these apply, the first step is a diagnosis.

Questions

Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between PIE and PIH?

PIE (post-inflammatory erythema) is a red or pink mark from widened small blood vessels; PIH (post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation) is a brown mark from extra melanin. Press a clear glass on the mark: PIE fades under pressure, PIH does not.

Do red acne marks go away on their own?

Most do, over months, once new spots stop forming. Sun protection, not picking and gentle skincare help. Red marks that persist can be treated with a laser that acts on the vessels.

How long do brown acne marks last?

Surface pigment often fades over a few months with daily sunscreen. Deeper, greyer pigment can last a year or more, which is when treatment is usually considered.

Are acne marks the same as acne scars?

No. Marks are flat changes in colour; scars change the contour of the skin, as dips, pits or raised bumps. They are treated with different tools, and many people have both.

Which laser is used for red acne marks?

At IN Eternity Clinic, persistent red marks are treated with the 675 nm laser, which acts on the vascular part of the dermis. Pulsed dye laser and intense pulsed light are used elsewhere and are not the methods used at this clinic.

Which treatment helps brown acne marks in Asian skin?

Daily sunscreen and acne control come first, then pigment-safe or prescription skincare. For marks that persist, gentle low-heat options such as pico laser, laser toning or superficial peels are used, with settings chosen to avoid causing more pigment.

Can I treat acne marks while I still have acne?

The acne is treated first, because every new spot can leave a new mark. Sun protection and gentle skincare can start straight away, and some mark treatment can run alongside acne treatment once spots are under control.

Related at IN Eternity: Acne marks removal in Singapore · Acne scar treatment in Singapore · 675 nm laser · Pico laser for pigmentation · Acne treatment · Types of acne scars

Book an assessment

IN Eternity Clinic, 9 Scotts Road, #12-01 Pacific Plaza, Singapore 228210. By appointment with Medical Director Dr Sin Yong. Monday to Saturday, 11am to 8pm. WhatsApp or call +65 8815 3008. The consultation fee is waived with any medical treatment.

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These sources describe mechanisms and general evidence. They are not a promise of any individual result; suitability is decided at an in-person assessment.

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